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MEET AMANDA TALTY
CEO AND PRESIDENT
TOURETTE ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA

Amanda Talty, CEO Tourette Association of America

MEET AMANDA TALTY CEO AND PRESIDENT TOURETTE ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA

“TOURETTE IS SO HIGHLY VISIBLE BUT SO OVERLOOKED”

AMANDA TALTY is the CEO and President of the Tourette Association of America (TAA). For almost 50 years the TAA has supported patients and families impacted by Tourette syndrome and tic disorders and funded and advanced new research. Here she talks to Asarina Pharma about the need for better diagnosis, recent milestones in treatment guidelines and the future role of a pharma therapy that could prove itself safe, free of side effects, and able to work effectively in a complex treatment landscape

Few conditions expose their sufferers to such intense social stigma as the common neurological disorder Tourette syndrome (TS). Yet for a condition that is often so highly visible, Tourette is still often overlooked, despite tics beginning to manifest most commonly in childhood and adolescence.

“Imagine your own body betraying you. Constantly and compulsively. No matter where, no matter when. Now imagine it happening as you first start school.”
Amanda TatleyCEO Tourette Association of America

UNDER-DIAGNOSIS IS COMMON

“In the US it takes up to two years on average to get a Tourette diagnosis” says Amanda Talty, “for a five- to eight-year-old child that can feel like a lifetime.” 
A new study published in 2022 by the U.S. CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) estimates that 1-in-50 children in the US may be affected by Tourette or persistent tic disorders, previous estimates were 1-in-100, and that up to 450,000 U.S. children and adults have Tourette.

“Studies show that if you go undiagnosed – particularly in a school environment – your long-term outcomes are lower because you’re not getting the educational accommodation you need. Children with Tourette have a far harder time getting through their school age years – not only academically but also socially – the bullying is off the charts and that really impacts their self-esteem, you see higher rates of rage associated with these kids if they’re being bullied, which impacts their home lives so there’s a snowball effect.”

1-in-50 children

in the US may be affected by Tourette or persistent tic disorders U.S. CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.) Previous estimates were 1-in-100

COMPLEX CONDITION - COMPLEX TREATMENT LANDSCAPE

A major factor in non-diagnosis is the complexity of Tourette itself. 86% of Tourette patients have at least one co-occurring disorder, from ADHD to OCD/B, inattention, hyperactivity or childhood conduct disorder. This creates a complex treatment landscape, often obscuring Tourette itself and leading it to go untreated. 

Recent genetic research suggests that that TS is not a discrete, unitary condition, but rather covers a spectrum of subtypes across a broad range of compulsive disorders (1). Tourette tics are complex and changeable, changing in type, frequency, and severity over weeks or days. They range from almost imperceptible tics that may disappear quickly, to chronic tics that can cause serious physical injury. The result is an elusive, highly nuanced contrition that is challenging to diagnose.

“Often co-occurring conditions will get diagnosed, but the tic itself will get written off as secondary or something that will go away” says Talty, “if it’s a sniffling tic a pediatrician might send the child to an ENT (Ear Nose or Throat) specialist. If it’s a blinking tic it might be attributed to an allergy and the child sent to an allergist. Almost every family we speak to identifies getting a diagnosis as the number one challenge, and most have had the experience of being bounced between doctors before landing on a neurologist – and it usually is a neurologist – who finally diagnoses them. We hear that a hyper-focus on one thing, be it ADHD or OCD, is a big challenge that often leads to other important symptoms being ignored. Current medication too can sometimes exacerbate one condition over the other – whilst those of us working with TS understand that it’s a soup. You can tease out certain ingredients but ultimately there will always be a whole range of issues involved in Tourette.”

THE NEED FOR A SAFE, STABLE PHARMA SOLUTION AND THE RISE OF CBIT

In 2019 the American Academy of Neurology issued its first treatment guidelines for Tourette. The guideline recommended Comprehensive Behavioral Intervention for Tics (CBIT) as the first-line treatment, and advised neurologists to routinely evaluate people with tics for ADHD, OCD and mood and anxiety disorders.
“The new guideline elevated TS in the minds of all neurologists, pediatric or otherwise” Talty says. “Neurologists are typically medication prescribers, so recommending CBIT, a behavioral therapy, was a big step forward for patients, it reflects the effort that went into making sure the new guidelines serve patients as best as possible.”

CBIT combines relaxation training, habit-reversal training and behavioral therapy. Since its inception TAA has advocated for and funded new research into Tourette, and has been long-time champions of CBIT as a safe treatment modality with no side effects. “We provided the original seed funding for the pioneering work of Dr Doug Woods in creating the CBIT curriculum and technique” Talty says “we’re proud to have him as a member of our Medical Advisory Board now. CBIT has been proven to be as effective, in some cases more effective, as medication in treating tics, and crucially it has no side effects. Our impact survey shows that almost a third of children and adolescents try five or more different medications, and all too often parents feel that those medications just aren’t getting the job done.”
 
Amanda Talty
“Parents want to give their kids something that will maximize their quality of life, but not take anything away. If pharma could develop an effective Tourette drug that had no negative side effects, I think it would have a winner.”

SAFETY: THE #1 PHARMA PRIORITY FOR PARENTS

“What we hear most about when it comes to medication is complaints about side effects,” Talty says. “Patients tell us ‘I want to take a drug that helps me stop my tics but isn’t going to make me gain 50 pounds’ or ‘I want to be able to offer my child a drug that will help them with their ADHD but won’t affect their physical growth because it suppresses appetite.’ Parents are not going to prescribe their children pharmaceutical products if they think the solution is worse than the problem.”.

Today, some commonly prescribed Tourette treatments (anti-psychotic neuroleptics like haloperidol, or Haldol) can have side effects ranging from blurred vision, nausea and diarrhoea to irregular heartbeat and tremors and severe involuntary movement disorders that can themselves be mistaken for Tourette.

Does TAA still hear interest from parents in a safe, effective medication despite these concerns? “Absolutely!” Talty says. “Parents want to give their kids something that will maximize their quality of life, but not take anything away. If pharma could to that, if it could develop an effective Tourette drug that had no negative side effects, I think it would have a winner.”

TOWARDS A PHARMA TREATMENT THAT CAN SUPPORT CBIT

With complex co-conditions in 85% of cases, and CBIT the first-line treatment, any new Tourette therapy would need to be able to fit into a complex treatment landscape. “Most families who have lived with TS for some time understand that there is no magic bullet. There’s never going to be the one thing you take and suddenly everything is 100% perfect.
“So if you are on medication, you’re likely going to need therapy as well because you’re always going to need coping mechanisms. We hear from parents that if their child is on an ADHD medication for example, they might simultaneously be doing CBIT so they can better control the body But that’s the beauty of medication – for those that it works for – it gives someone that space from their tic so they can better focus and learn the lessons that they’re learning. You’re much better able to have different conversations and get different outcomes if your medication is giving you that extra space.”

Even a partial reduction in tics, Talty agrees, could give someone more space to start learning better coping strategies and better methods for managing their Tics. “For a child with a light whistling Tic that’s really disruptive say, even a 5% reduction would give them an improvement. I think anything that brings the tic profile down, even with small tic reductions, would be something of value – and if it were as safe and free of side effects, yes – I think you’d certainly find families who were interested in that.”
“That’s the beauty of medication – for those that it works for – it gives someone that space from their tic so they can better focus and learn the lessons that they’re learning,” ”
-Amanda Talty, CEO and President Tourette Association of America

REDUCING STRESS AND STIGMA

Social stigma triggers stress which in turn can trigger more tics. Whether teachers or schoolmates, what advice would TAA CEO Amanda Talty give on reducing stress and stigma?
DON’T JUDGE “Remember this is a person! A person who has dreams and families and loved ones. See the person not the tic”

TREAD LIGHTLY “We all have ‘a thing’ right? This just happens to be theirs. And remember – Ticcers don’t have the luxury of being able to hide their tics”

ASK AUTHENTIC QUESTIONS “If you’re seeing a certain pattern of behavior repeatedly, over and over, that should be a cue to begin a conversation, ask ‘hey, are you able to stop doing that or not? Because if not that’s cool – and let’s talk about it.”

CARE “The important thing is compassion. Assume the best in people – don’t always assume that the person is doing this to annoy you. If you’re a teacher don’t assume the child is intentionally not listening to you. Instead – assume that there is something else underneath. And that you really have to peel the onion to get to the heart of it. So ask genuine questions, if you see that your questions are making them uncomfortable – express that that is not your intent but you do really want to understand.

“TAA was started around a kitchen table by a handful of families who needed support and knew there were others out there just like them”, CEO Amanda Talty

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